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Penguicon 2011: Arrival - The Autobiography of Russell
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Penguicon 2011: Arrival
We've arrived at the hotel for Penguicon 2011. It doesn't officially start until tomorrow, but we're getting an early start and a little rest before the chaos begins. :-)

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heartirony From: heartirony Date: April 29th, 2011 03:16 pm (UTC) (Link)
Welcome to town! If you manage to have free time and don't call to hang out I will be quite wroth. @aaronthul will probably be too overworked to socialize, but you should say hi anyway.
zimzat From: zimzat Date: April 29th, 2011 04:41 pm (UTC) (Link)
The con gets into full swing this evening. We might be able to do something Sunday evening (haven't looked at the con schedule yet), and then we have to head for the airport a little after noon on Monday.
vaelynphi From: vaelynphi Date: April 29th, 2011 10:34 pm (UTC) (Link)
Android development seems ridiculously easy (I got up and running with an emulator and IDE in less than ten minutes, *after* about 1.5GB of downloads finished), yet I can't find *any* equivalent tools for iOS, at least not that are freely available.

So why does everyone seem of the opinion that iOS (iPhone/iPad) is easier to develop for?

zimzat From: zimzat Date: April 30th, 2011 03:04 pm (UTC) (Link)
iOS expects you to already have the device you try to program against. It's one way they get more people using their product. They're also super secretive about their development processes.

Why people think they're easy? Probably the koolaid.
vaelynphi From: vaelynphi Date: May 2nd, 2011 12:36 am (UTC) (Link)
Seriously that's the only explanation I could imagine.

I've been digging around in the Window Manager in Android 2.1 trying to find if there's any justification to a comment about differences in how the hardware handles UI input compared to iOS... and so far it seems like one could replace the Window Manager with one programmed to act like the iOS UI, and the droid would act like an iPhone, basically.
vaelynphi From: vaelynphi Date: May 2nd, 2011 07:51 am (UTC) (Link)
On a side, note, I did find the recommended iOS development tools, but I'm doubly disappointed.

http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#referencelibrary/GettingStarted/URL_Tools_for_iPhone_OS_Development/_index.html

I really feel uncomfortable opening an IDE whose interface reminds me of iTunes. Also, apparently Apple is utterly inimical to giving development tools out for free. $5 is cheap, yeah, but infinitely stingy when compared to getting every virtual device available for zero cost (as with the Android tools).

What's worse, according to the comments on Xcode's download page, every new revision is another 4+ GB download... way to go, modularity.
zimzat From: zimzat Date: May 2nd, 2011 01:49 pm (UTC) (Link)
What part of that reminds you of iTunes?

Keep in mind that the majority of the iTunes interface is simply the Mac interface. The look and act of the buttons, lists, text, etc; that's all simply how a Mac looks and acts.
vaelynphi From: vaelynphi Date: May 3rd, 2011 12:53 am (UTC) (Link)
Well, I suppose a big, round 'play' button in an IDE unnerves me irrationally.
zimzat From: zimzat Date: May 3rd, 2011 01:07 am (UTC) (Link)
*nods* Probably.

My NetBeans IDE also has a 'Play' button for the debug functionality.
vaelynphi From: vaelynphi Date: May 4th, 2011 12:14 am (UTC) (Link)
True, but it doesn't seem as obnoxious to me. I mean, VS has a 'play' button too, but it's no more prominent than any of the other thirty icons.

Maybe I just have a deep-seated hate for Apple? I'll have to ask my therapist.
zimzat From: zimzat Date: May 4th, 2011 05:40 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm going to go with yes, you're polarized against Apple. They aren't necessarily bad most of the time, but certainly not great most of the time either. They've done a number of good things, yet at the same time screwed up plenty too. Fanbois are just as annoying.
vaelynphi From: vaelynphi Date: May 2nd, 2011 07:54 am (UTC) (Link)
Strike that, you can get it for free... sortof. You have to join the development club.

I mean, drink the kool-aid.
vaelynphi From: vaelynphi Date: May 2nd, 2011 07:58 am (UTC) (Link)
...or not entirely.

Apparently if you don't pay $100 to drink the kool-aid, they give you diet kool-aid, and you only get last year's versions of their software.

Stay classy, Apple.

In the meantime, I hope the convention was fun. I wonder how many drunk, shirtless nerds were roaming free for the pickings there. :)
zimzat From: zimzat Date: May 2nd, 2011 02:08 pm (UTC) (Link)
None, unfortunately, but that was okay. There was one twink (literally, under 18 probably) who decided to wear a mesh shirt... not amusing. But other than that, a higher than normal number of cute geeks and nerds all over the place. The average attribute of the con goers varies widely, from pre-18 young to past-retiring old, and everything in between.

I didn't go to nearly as many panels as I had marked down. Still, the ones I did go to I got some good mind map notes from. I'll be uploading the mind maps to my gallery in a little bit. We also skipped out on the room parties.
zimzat From: zimzat Date: May 2nd, 2011 03:29 pm (UTC) (Link)
vaelynphi From: vaelynphi Date: May 2nd, 2011 08:08 am (UTC) (Link)
Oh, and while I'm at it... the Android development resources are available for Windows, MacOS, Linux... a toaster, pretty much anything.

I bet you can guess how many OSes the iOS development software is available for...
From: anarchomo Date: May 4th, 2011 09:08 pm (UTC) (Link)
No more daily confession? =(
zimzat From: zimzat Date: May 5th, 2011 12:06 am (UTC) (Link)
Those went out the window with the trip. I'll start posting them again tomorrow morning when I head back to work.

We're back in Atlanta now, but tired from the travels.
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