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Stupid Videos
I really wish LiveJournal would provide the option to disable videos in my friends page. I think that was the dumbest idea they've done yet. If I wanted to watch the video then I would go to it at YouTube or wherever it is. The stupid things are making my flash extension get loaded and slow the page loading.

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neuroxin From: neuroxin Date: July 26th, 2006 02:50 am (UTC) (Link)
It's not like it plays them automatically.
zimzat From: zimzat Date: July 26th, 2006 02:53 am (UTC) (Link)
It doesn't have to play them, it still loads up the plugin. The flash plugin for Linux is two versions behind now and an extreme resource hog. Not only that but for a video that doesn't play it takes up an awful lot of space on the page. I honestly don't see the point in them. It's just as easy to make commentary and provide a link as it is to put it in-line of the entry.
neuroxin From: neuroxin Date: July 26th, 2006 02:56 am (UTC) (Link)
It is just as easy for the poster yes. But it makes it easier for the reader. They play the video directly in your friends page. You don't have to leave your friends page or open a new window to go to youtube. That is the point. They don't take anymore space than most of the regular image posts I see on my flist daily.
zimzat From: zimzat Date: July 26th, 2006 03:08 am (UTC) (Link)
They play the video directly in your friends page.
That's exactly what I find annoying. I don't want it to play on my friends page.

You don't have to leave your friends page or open a new window to go to youtube.
Get with the new decade, it's not 1995 anymore. It's called a tab.

They don't take anymore space than most of the regular image posts I see on my flist daily.
That would be because people on your friends' list post lots of pictures, whereas mine don't or they put them behind a lj-cut tag. That and pictures don't annoy me by moving, play sounds, causing the page to jerk and blink out and back in while the flash object loads, and I can easily disable images or make it so they only load when I click on them. Not so much for flash objects.
mrtrblmkr1 From: mrtrblmkr1 Date: July 26th, 2006 06:33 am (UTC) (Link)
i wholeheartedly agree as well, that is
UNTIL I GOT MY NEW EMAC!!! OMFG *DEATH LOLZRS PUBES*

seriously, this is just one large children's toy,
sans the children and sans the easiness of a toy.

what distro are you using? redhat?! there should
already be a flash patch to ver 9, at least,
ubuntu allows it for me, which, by the way, ubuntu
and xubuntu are god's gifts to me :D, they rate
third on the best gifts list ever received, 2 would
be my first actually purchased pc gift from my parents
and the first would be your harry potter rug and various
cd's you gave to me as a gift. i still have the
rug hung and the cd's are archived, danke.

argh, back to the main point, instead of trying to
block flash animations from startup, which, when
they already load, and the script to block them
has to load, and both are loaded, creating this
ironic situation of moot, how about disabling
flash all together in the browser, or making
a script that acts like a switch and disables
flash whenever you turn it on, rather than unload
or block it.
mrtrblmkr1 From: mrtrblmkr1 Date: July 26th, 2006 06:35 am (UTC) (Link)
argh. i'm stoopid. you already mention you have such
scripts. are you using firefox?
zimzat From: zimzat Date: July 26th, 2006 01:30 pm (UTC) (Link)
Yes, I'm using Firefox on Kubuntu. I am using the FlashBlock extension, except it doesn't take affect until after the page has loaded, by which point Firefox may already be trying to download the movie, and it still loads flash regardless. I also have GreaseMonkey, except any scripts run through that don't take affect until after the page has loaded as well.

Where is this patch to version nine that you mention? I just checked the repositories using Adept and I don't see it. The only thing I see is for version seven. I also don't want to disable flash altogether because I use Pandora.com (flash-based music player) almost all the time.
mrtrblmkr1 From: mrtrblmkr1 Date: July 26th, 2006 07:18 pm (UTC) (Link)
Oh, no, it's not a patch, it's the beta version to nine, I don't
know why I renamed it as a patch.

It was the under development version 8.5, now 9,
found here.

it works comfortably thus far. though when I did look for
9 for linux and mentioned a patch, I think I was refering
to the version released for darwin... *meep*

how about wine + firefox? if you run firefox in wine, you should
be able to use flash 9 without any problems.
halogencycle From: halogencycle Date: July 26th, 2006 12:54 pm (UTC) (Link)
Hi, I found your journal through a community, and you seem cool. Is it OK if I add you? My name is Jason, I'm almost 16, from California.

And by the way, I think the videos are annoying too, especially since I am on dialup. I guess some would say that the answer is to get broadband, but I can't where I live.

They should just have a feature where you could choose to have all the videos put behind a lj-cut or something like that. People could set it and the people who want the videos on their friends page could get them on their friends page and everyone would be happy.
zimzat From: zimzat Date: July 26th, 2006 01:46 pm (UTC) (Link)
I don't have a problem if you add me so go right ahead. Most of my entries are public anyway so it would be a moot point to say you couldn't. :-P

The thing I don't get about the video issue is: They created a whole new blogging site called Vox just so they could include videos in the blogs, yet they went back and put it in LiveJournal as well. That is what I don't like. If I wanted to be part of the crowd who had a dozen videos on their friends page then I would join Vox; I like LiveJournal exactly like it is.
halogencycle From: halogencycle Date: July 27th, 2006 01:49 am (UTC) (Link)
Cool. You're added then.

If I had broadband, I wouldn't mind it as much, but they don't seem to recognize that a lot of people, especially those who live out in the sticks, don't.
neo_prodigy From: neo_prodigy Date: July 26th, 2006 02:36 pm (UTC) (Link)
would it help to use a filter?

that way you can bypass the guilty parties who do this?
zimzat From: zimzat Date: July 26th, 2006 03:12 pm (UTC) (Link)
I've done that for other people for other things, but I feel like at that point I should simply remove them from my list. If I'm not reading their entries then what is the point? *shrug* They probably think I'm still reading their entries so it seems like I'm doing them a disservice.
ripper82 From: ripper82 Date: July 26th, 2006 02:56 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm torn. I have broadband and a fast computer so the videos don't cause any lag... but I still think they're slightly annoying. First of all, people are going overboard with way too many of them. And secondly, the still image is usually blurry and not very descriptive in terms of what the video is going to be about. Plus, if I remember correctly, there's no way of seeing how long the video is without starting to play it. That's stupid, because if I saw that a video from one of those people on my list was like 10 minutes long, I wouldn't even start it. If it was only 30 seconds long, I wouldn't mind.
zimzat From: zimzat Date: July 26th, 2006 03:09 pm (UTC) (Link)
My desktop computer doesn't have a problem with displaying them (usually), but they still take up half the height of my browser. I run my browser at 1024x1000 (~1014x825 viewable) so that's quite a feat.

Other than the size, my complaint is also on the bandwidth it takes to show flash on a page. When I'm on my laptop I forward the browser from my desktop to it so that I can keep all my settings and sessions (think VNC). Since I'm on a home network connection and my desktop is a 1.8 GHz AMD Duron, I don't usually have a problem with regular applications and browsing the internet. If one of those flash videos gets put on the page then even the still image flash bogs down the connection to where it takes two seconds, literally, to do anything. I'm used to being able to browse my friends page without being concerned about that, but not any more.

Simple pictures don't cause that kind of problem unless it's trying to show the full 2000x1000 (or whatever) original image.
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