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Wisconsion Senate Republicans and Governor are petty
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legolastn From: legolastn Date: March 5th, 2011 03:35 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm not sure how "My union didn't represent me in the way I felt they should" leads to the logical conclusion "All unions everywhere only care about their own existence and are no longer necessary."

I don't think it's particularly controversial to say most workers (both unionized and not) have a common sense understanding that wages and benefits are steadily shrinking and that the power and wealth of corporations and management (especially top management) are steadily growing. To me, this doesn't suggest the declining influence of unions has had a positive effect for workers, and therefore doesn't suggest workers would somehow become better off if unions disappeared entirely. Beyond this, studies document that union workers have higher wages, a broader array of benefits, and better benefit options than non-union workers - this suggests there is at least some utilitarian value to being in a union beyond getting more money for the unions.

Saying that unions have flaws and aren't perfect isn't enough to jump to the conclusion they have no purpose and shouldn't exist. If that were so, we'd have to say all social groups and institutions should be done away with.
tazwolf From: tazwolf Date: March 7th, 2011 03:17 pm (UTC) (Link)
Unions today are not what they were even 50 years ago. Today, they are huge corporations unto themselves.

My beef with my former union has to deal with the fact that I was fired for not coming to work (after calling in sick and having a Dr's note to the fact that I was running a 100+ fever) where my union sided with the management and said I had no case. That is not what the union was for. it was a shit job anyway, and I moved on, but it still gave me a bad taste for the unions of today.
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